Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?
Inge:
Rascal, I have uploaded it here: http://simlogical.com/slforum/index.php?topic=916.0
You should not need to register in order to download it - let me know if you have any difficulty.
Doc Doofus:
Okay, here's the deal.
I saved the game at about 6:50pm. Restarted it and it crashed. (As reported earlier).
Now, I EXPANDED the lot (still occupied) using LE, making it larger. Resumed the game at 6:50. It made it past 7 just fine! Saved it.
Next, I RE-SHRUNK the lot (still occupied) using LE, making it it's original small size, 1x2. Resumed the game at it's past 7pm nighttime state. Worked fine. I played several more days with it. Nighttime and daytime passed, and it did not crash again.
So what conclusions can be drawn?
1. Is it possible that the PACKAGE itself was damaged by the export packaging process, but repaired when I re-expanded and re-shrunk?
2. Is it possible that the problem is only with the very first 7pm event, that something special happens with new Sims or new lots the first time nighttime occurs? Something special that conflicts with shrunken lots? (I have a weird suspicion it could be related to property depreciation.)
If it's (1), above, then that might explain why most of us have had no problems with our OWN shrunken lots we created, but others do. The export packaging process may not work perfectly with shrunken lots.
Possible solutions (that suggest tests):
If (1) is the case, then it should still be possible to manually package and install lots without using the export package process.
If (2) is the case, then it might fix things to play the lot past 7pm, use the move-out-stayer-shrub, move Sims out, then package it.
behold_the_muse:
Oh, yes, my lot crashed at 7. I mention the neighbors because that's all she did all day. I haven't tried again yet, since I was in a bit of shock when the game crashed! Believe it or not that was my first time.
Simsample:
Pbox, I downloaded and tested two of your other resized lots- 'Row House 1' and 'Row House 3'. I removed all of my custom content and hacks this time. Again, I was consistently able to make the lot crash at 7PM using CAS sims- but using the Maxis bin sims or even townies, there was no crash. I also created a CAS sim and made the game crash with her:
Then restarted the game immediately, and replayed the lot under the same conditions:
No crash, it played fine. It seems that the auto save on move in affects this somehow. Then I downloaded Inge's lot from Simlogical, and tested that with a freshly created CAS sim. I had to add items (bathroom, kitchen etc) but I couldn't make the game crash. I tested Inge's lot with five different CAS sims and a Maxis bin sim, but still no crash. I even tested several lots in different orientations- as I did wonder whether the shadow rendering or maybe impostor rendering was causing issues. However, I could find no correlation between location and direction- North, south, east or west facing- and adjoining lots (or lack of adjoining lots) with crashing. The only constant seems to be that the three PBox lots crash at 7PM when played unsaved with CAS sims. I attached the exception log from the crash in the first image.
Zazazu:
Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2007 October 28, 14:03:35
1. Is it possible that the PACKAGE itself was damaged by the export packaging process, but repaired when I re-expanded and re-shrunk?
2. Is it possible that the problem is only with the very first 7pm event, that something special happens with new Sims or new lots the first time nighttime occurs? Something special that conflicts with shrunken lots? (I have a weird suspicion it could be related to property depreciation.)
If it's (1), above, then that might explain why most of us have had no problems with our OWN shrunken lots we created, but others do. The export packaging process may not work perfectly with shrunken lots.
But, still then all of us who play the shared shrunken lots should be having the same problem. And the same people are not having the issue every time.
Could it possibly have to do with furnishings? I stripped the place entirely and changed basically everything but the walls. I had no crashes on this one (tested by decendants of QC) or on a 2x1 I made myself (tested by CAS sims). I have an ATI Radeon x600, playing everything on the highest levels except for view distance, which is at medium.
And Doc Doofus, I can't get your lot from that link. I get an error page:
Quote from: mean error
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